얼마 전 와이프가 산에서 따온 버섯을 먹고 배탈이 난 적이 있다.
아마 덜 익혀서 그런 것 같기도 하고...
아니면 평소에 위가 안 좋아서 그랬던 것 같기도 하고......
페이스북 평소 가입 돼 있었던 버섯 관련 그룹들에 에 문의를 했더니 많은 댓글들이 올라 왔다.
그 글들을 좀 정리를 해 봤다.
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I have had a similar reaction 1 time and 1 time only after eating lobster mushrooms. I have eaten them since and many times before and have not had issues. I don’t know what caused it. My partner ate the same mushrooms and was just fine. I know I have sensitivity to some mushroom species (like elfin saddles) so it may have been the host mushroom for the ascomycete (sp) was something other than Russula Brevipes and that affected me 🤷🏼♀️ totally unsure but you are not alone
Exactly my reaction to honeys. I've since not been able to eat any mushrooms, wild or cultivated, without the same adverse reaction. The pain was so excruciating I fainted.
Unfortunately, I have that reaction to morels. I ate them fine as a kid, but now they make me violently ill. So of course, I get stuck cooking mushrooms I love but can't eat. 😒😅
IDs are correct but that doesn't mean they aren't the cause. Could of had a spoiled mushroom or potentially she has an adverse/allergic reaction to them. Even a safe mushroom isn't safe for everyone same goes for all food.
i’ve also heard some folks get tummy ache from chanterelles too
Symptoms don't match what I'd expect from either of these species.
Some people have an adverse reaction to some wild mushrooms, but if she's eaten these before without issues I'd get to a doctor quickly. It could also be a host of other issues that need prompt attention.
There are many cases of people having adverse effects to edible mushrooms. Low stomach release of the enzyme trehalase for example. Please seek medical help.
Campylobacter Jejuni (from raw chicken or pork) has these symptoms. I know from experience. Was meat cooked with the mushrooms?
Changsoo Park "People can get Campylobacter infection by eating raw or undercooked poultry or eating something that touched it. They can also get it from eating other foods, including seafood, meat, and produce, by contact with animals, and by drinking untreated water.".
I have the same reaction to Chanterelles. I ate them for years with no ill effects then one day I thought I was going to die and it’s been that way ever since. I can still eat all other varieties just not Chanterelle’s. Hope she is better soon!
If I don’t cook them for a very long time (12-15) minutes I will be up with the sh*ts for hours. Similar for my spouse. Pretty scary the first time it happens. Which makes it feel worse. Note: mushrooms contain chitin which must be cooked to be digested by humans. Some humans digest it better than others.
If I don’t cook some kinds super well, morels for sure, it can suck.
I know a couple people who suddenly became ill affected by wild mushrooms after eating them for years. One was Chanterelles.
Shaun Hulsizer I got this as a kid after eating mushrooms almost daily for years. Wasn’t until recently that I can eat mushrooms again. Still can’t eat certain ones without heart burn and nausea
Tiffany Olsen Yes a friend of mine I used to trade I would pick mushrooms for them and they give me other veggies and different things in trade and one day she got sick after eating Chanterelles her whole life she wasn’t sure what it was so she tried again and sure enough got sick again so she doesn’t eat them anymore
In our house, I ate lobster with my husband the first time we found them. Super delicious!
The next season we were excited to eat them again... BUT I am now allergic even though I heroically tried to eat three different geo locations in hopes that I would get not get sick, again...
No luck. I cannot eat lobster mushrooms anymore. I would bet this is the case for your wife.
Those are 100% lobsters and chanterelles. Is there a possibility you may have undercooked them? My mom has had a similar reaction to undercooked chants
If she drank any type of alcohol. There is a high rate of people who have adverse effects from drinking alcohol and eating wild mushrooms.
The symptoms you described are very similar with the alcohol mixed with mushrooms.
Possible the mix of both mushrooms or alcohol. Lobster can bother some folks
Anecdotal evidence:
When I was in Maine visiting family in September, we found many lobsters (mushrooms). It was my first experience with them. I ate way too much and had GI issues for three days. I totally overindulged and paid for it.
Agreed with the above comment, but in your pictures and video, the species ingested were correctly identified. She could have had an individual bad reaction to the mushrooms, had too many if it was the first time, or it could be something completely unrelated. But the mushroom IDs are correct and they are edible species which are safe for most people.
I have a friend that can eat chanterelles except whites (C. subalbidus).
Chanterelle mushrooms make me sick, too. Same happened to a friend of mine as well. Neither of us can eat them anymore.
Agree that IDs look correct. Lobster mushrooms can also cause reactions and stomach upset in individuals so don’t rule out either species as the possible cause.
Never munch on a hunch.
Some people aren’t able to tolerate mushrooms that are completely edible for most people. Has she ever had chanterelles and lobster mushrooms before? (Also could have been something else she was exposed to and totally unrelated to the mushrooms.)
Mushroom in the first video does look like a chanterelle, though not 100% ID'able from the video alone. Not sure about the other vids (I don't think hedgehogs, they don't really look like spines underneath), but whatever they are, they are kind of decrepit.
More people are sickened by the bacteria on undercooked mushrooms than by toxic mushrooms. Did you cook the thoroughly before consuming?
https://MushroomObsession.com/
Over the years I have read lobster mushroom cause stomach issues in some.
If it was the mushrooms then you’d most likely have the same symptoms crop up. How are you feeling?
How is she doing today? Did you cook the mushrooms? The last two times I ate Lion's Mane I had abdominal pain and squeezing and nausea even though they were safely grown and ID'd.
I’ve been a chef for a long time and not only cooked and served these mushrooms under about any conditions possible, lobster and chanterelle mushrooms shouldn’t really give any discomfort to the eater. My guess is that there was some other sort of contamination involved. Time and temperature would be my first guesses and not properly cleaning the veggies can also add problems. But if done properly there shouldn’t be any issues.
So if it was chanterelles and lobster mushrooms they are both edible raw (at least Russula brevipes I’m unsure if the Hypomyces infecting them is different). So undercooking likely isn’t the issue unless there was some contamination of them like bacterial.
These mushrooms are both fine with alcohol for most people so unlikely the cause unless your wife has a rare insensitivity to the combo.
Mixing mushrooms isn’t an issue other than if you have a reaction you can’t tell which mushroom caused it.
The most likely cause here is possible contamination and/or individual sensitivity it one exasperated by her underlying GI issues. Could help to try each one separately in the future to see which caused it if it’s individual and if neither do you can likely point the finger at contamination or something other than the mushrooms entirely.